on 2007-01-28 12:48 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zoo-music-girl.livejournal.com
That's a much better argument than Simon's which was basically that Doors' songs are longer. At which point I mentioned "We Will Fall" - (10.18)

on 2007-01-28 12:52 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] duranorak.livejournal.com
By that logic the Ozric Tentacles are better than both of them (to be fair, I do like them better than both of them, mind...) - longest song that's not long because of a hidden track in my iTunes clocks in at 19:03. But then Simon likes them too, doesn't he?

And then after that it's Dead Can Dance. I'm noting a pattern here.

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on 2007-01-28 12:56 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] childeric.livejournal.com
Hmm, chalk and cheese, so I'm not sure I'd want to compare them. The Ozrics are fantastic live though. Jim really can't compete on that score.

on 2007-01-28 12:59 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] duranorak.livejournal.com
It's Sunday, I'm not being serious :) Although I could probably write a comparison of the Doors and the Ozrics if I were at school and had to. But then I once planned and drafted an essay about similarities between the New Romantics and the Romantics (as in the poets, not the New Wave band of mild renown) so I can crowbar most things like that really.

I have too many thoughts.

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on 2007-01-28 01:18 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] childeric.livejournal.com
Erm, drugs and shagging? Oh, and big white shirts. Although strangely there's something altogether healthier and more wholesome about the New Romantics.

I think you have just the right amount of thoughts. :)

on 2007-01-28 01:31 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] duranorak.livejournal.com
The big white shirts were definitely in there. I think somehow I managed to link 'Rio' to Lord Byron's life in Italy, as well, but I'm buggered if I can remember how now. I wish I'd kept the notes.

I think there was something to do with goth and Shelley as well. And decadence and elitism and, uh. I have no idea what else.

I miss you. Very glad I am likely to see you soon. I approve of that as a concept.

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on 2007-01-28 01:53 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] childeric.livejournal.com
Mmm, decadence.

Yeah, lookin' forward to seein' ya soon, honey. :)

on 2007-01-29 11:38 am (UTC)
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That may depend on when you catch him - I saw him on the last day of my teens and he was absolutely scorching.

on 2007-01-28 01:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sprezzatoura.livejournal.com
By that logic the Ozric Tentacles are better than both of them

*Whispers* So are Marillion. ;-)

on 2007-01-28 02:24 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hirez.livejournal.com
Kraftwerk! Better than The Ozrics and Marillion standing on each others' shoulders and wearing a long coat pretending to be dead tall!

on 2007-01-28 12:53 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] childeric.livejournal.com
Cuh, what was implicit is that there's far more opportunity in Doors songs to work out musical ideas. Which there is, and which is why they're better. Not that I don't like the Stooges, but the Doors are far more interestingly psych-y. And they're a heroin and dope band, not a speed band. And that's just better. ;-p

on 2007-01-28 12:59 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] moral-vacuum.livejournal.com
My choice was made due to a number of factors:

1) The lead person of the band as human being. Iggy wins.

2) The charisma and excitement provided by said band and singer. Iggy wins. (And he actually DOES get his nob out on stage, unlike Jim, the little tease).

3) Level of pretentious bollocks. Iggy wins.

4) Ghastliness of fans. Iggy wins.

5) Musical acomplishment. The Doors win, although there are some tracks that really get on my tits. Iggy/Stooges did some good stuff, but frankly it's a trfle too raw for regular listening, I have to be in a specific mood for a lot of it.

on 2007-01-28 01:29 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] childeric.livejournal.com
1) Hmm, lizard with tendency to paunchiness versus stringy roll of sliced-up sinew. I'm not sure either comes out on top in the being human stakes...
2) Oh, I think it's a matter of record that Jim whipped his out often enough. Or too often, depending on how one looks at it. To be honest, I'd rather see Iggy's, though, so yeah, I'll give you that one.
3) Oh God, 'The End'. Still, the music's great.
4) Well, there are an awful lot more Doors fans than Stooges fans. Sure there are probably more ghastly Doors fans than Stooges fans in absolute numbers, but the proportions are probably just the same. Think of all those skanky old punks loitering on Camden High St.
5) They both have their moments. I really like some Stooges stuff, especially Search and Destroy. But the Doors have it for me on balance.

:)

on 2007-01-28 05:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] percyprune.livejournal.com
Agreed.

on 2007-01-28 02:07 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sushidog.livejournal.com
There's also far more opportunity for them to get boring and to disappear up their own arses though; Iggy gets in there, does the business, and gets out while you still want more.

on 2007-01-28 03:08 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] nisaba.livejournal.com
Precisely. I grew up with both playing in the house, and while I do like The Doors style, there is more than enough of it in an average Doors song. In fact, most Doors tracks would be infinitely improved by being reduced to about 66% of their length.

It didn't help that there was a guy in my circle of friends at uni who would always put "Riders on the Storm" on the jukebox every time we went out, because it was the longest song listed and thus 'value for money'.

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